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This is an e-mail archive of John's analysis and observations on "news" specific to the crimes against humanity committed on 11 September 2001.
(See also Web Reference Links High-Lighted by John Judge for other analysis.)
NOTE: Please let me know if you find that a link to a news story is no longer valid. I will make a local copy here to keep this archive complete.--ratitor
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- Subject: support Cynthia McKinney in the fight for our lives
4 Aug 2002On September 13, Rep. Cynthia McKinney is sponsoring a panel in DC on the MLK assassination and COINTELPRO at the annual national Congressional Black Caucus Legislative Session to introduce a bill modeled after the JFK Records Act to secure release of the files on MLK and the COINTELPRO program of the FBI, which Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft now wants to revive. This article focuses on the current funding behind an effort to unseat McKinney for taking unpopular progressive views. She is one of our best friends in Congress relating to release of files. She has a website, www.adoptcynthiamckinney.org, which I encourage you to visit in order to support her.
An Open Letter To Rep. Cynthia McKinney On The Upcoming Primary Election
by Andrew McIntosh, Black World Today, 1 Aug 2002
http://athena.tbwt.com/content/article.asp?articleid=1303- Subject: Bush administration moves to stifle discovery in 9/11 lawsuits
4 Aug 2002Something to hide perhaps?
Bush administration moves to stifle discovery in 9/11 lawsuits
by Walter Gilberti, World Socialist Web Site, 2 Aug 2002
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/aug2002/bush-a02.shtml- Subject: The Will of the Wisp (bin Laden worth far more alive than dead)
4 Aug 2002They hesitated for lack of orders? I think that would only be the case if they had conflicting orders earlier telling them to seek authorization before capture. "Intercept, but don't shoot" was the old order for UFOs. He's worth far more alive than dead.
Officials deny bin Laden escaped November capture
by J.S. Newton, Fayetteville Observer, 2 Aug 2002
OdbLeNc.html- Subject: Largest Police State Ever
4 Aug 2002The author hits the nail on the head about the draconian nature of the Office of Homeland Security and its internal spy plan called TIPS. I demonstrated against it in front of the Department of Justice recently with a sign that read "Drop a Dime on Ashcroft". The government backed down slightly, but what is wrong with OHS is that it will function as an uncontrolled Gestapo, an arm of the official paranoia of the government against all its critics and will renew COINTELPRO, which never really died, with a vengeance.
Police State in a land of superlatives
by Doreen Miller, YellowTimes.org, 23 Jul 2002
http://www.yellowtimes.org/print.php?sid=518- Subject: Independent 9/11 Commission
4 Aug 2002After living through the politicized debacle of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, and even the Church Committee and the Ervin Committee attempts to get at the truth about intelligence dirty tricks, I have come to the conclusion that, like the Rockefeller Commission, it is mostly a case of asking the intelligence agencies to contemplate their own navels.
Not only are the oversight committees well-larded with toadies like Inouye and now those two stellar Floridians Bob Graham and Porter Goss (all of whom have gotten medals of commendation from the CIA itself), I don't think it is possible to use them to get at much of anything. They never do a full blown investigation, and if one starts to get close to the truth it is dismantled like the HSCA was, and put under control of the cover artists. They define the investigation at the start so narrowly it will never see the iceberg below the tip, and they go into closed session when anything really matters.
We are better off now calling for an independent Truth Commission outside the government. It has been amusing to watch the debate over using a Presidentially appointed blue-ribbon commission (like the Warren Commission) -- which was opposed by Senator Arlen Spector, who must know their shortcomings after inventing the single-bullet theory on JFK to get them out of their collision with the facts.
Recently I heard Senator Lieberman talking about this "independent, bipartisan" Congressional investigation in front of a rally of the victims' families who only want the truth not the government payoff. He said at one point that "security is the basis of all our other liberties". He has it exactly backwards.
Also want to mention that this author, Vernon Loeb, is a military editor. The Post's coverage of military trends reminds me of the key piece on August 21, 2001 on the squabble between Bush's people and the Pentagon about America adopting a Pax Americana attitude and admitting it is an empire. They are still fighting over it in relation to Iraq. Note his little zinger about making the military brass take a polygraph test about 9/11 instead of Congress, and his mention of the public's right to know. The final few sentences describe an alleged spy satellite in a way that reminds me of the intelligence community itself.
Independent Sept. 11 Commission Gaining Ground
by Vernon Loeb, Washington Post, 29 July 2002
Indp911Comm.html- Subject: Bush held up plan to hit Bin Laden
5 Aug 2002Are we surprised? Well, actually this Time magazine piece strikes me as cover story. We can blame Clinton and Bush now for the war, but Bush for waiting. I don't buy it that Bush only decided to go in on September 4th. Colin Powell was announcing the invasion of Afghanistan to other countries in June, set for mid-October. Uzbekistan base build-ups and huge military maneuvers around Egypt all happened before September 4.
Maybe Bush found out about it that late. That would match the story on ABC a month back that Bush only saw the plan a week ahead of the attack. Why tell him any sooner than he has to know? I keep thinking about his being told of the Twin Tower attacks in Florida and reportedly asking "Was it the terrorists?" Hmmm, exactly what was the other option?
Bush held up plan to hit Bin Laden
by Julian Borger, The Guardian, 5 August 2002
http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,769398,00.html- Subject: Speeding to War
5 Aug 2002Adrenaline, amphetamine, when it comes to keeping the troops up, just say yes to drugs! No wonder they are so accurate.
Fatigue dogged U.S. pilots:
Crews urged to use amphetamines days before Canadian troops killed
by Glen McGregor, Vancouver Sun, 3 June 2002
speedforwar.html- Subject: cover story - Time: Before Sept. 11 The Secret History
8 Aug 2002Some commentary on the Time piece. Look at the picture (ERIC DRAPER/WHITE HOUSE/AP, "George W. Bush meets with senior staff in a daily briefing at his ranch in Aug. 2001"). Isn't the proper caption, "Aide helps President Bush get on the same page"?
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 21:40:26 +0000
From: BW
Subject: just read time articleGo to their website (www.time.com) and you can read the whole thing. Not once in their entire article is the pipeline or oil mentioned. However, you will see the name Ritchie, if you recall, the fellow who shared a lobbyist with the Arab Delta oil company. Ritchie bankrolled Haq who was subsequently killed. And Clinton, if you read the text carefully, complained about the lousy intelligence info he was getting.
In order for the article to be read properly, you've got to know a whole lot about everything else going on and all the players involved. BCCI is an important background, for example. Agha Hasan Abedi was head of the United Bank of Pakistan, amongst other companies and co-founder of BCCI, along with Abu Dhabi and Sheik Zayed, not to mention the rest of the Arabs involved. BCCI, it was claimed, was the conduit for the funds for the Mujahadeen fighting in Afghanistan against the Soviets. Zayed was installed by the British. And so it goes.
Iran-Contra, Kimche, Armitage, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld and the Committee for a Free Lebanon are major players in this power struggle. They're openly pushing the Bush administration not to backpedal on the war against terror and compromise or cave in to the internationalists. That's why Bush was installed in the first place. To be a compliant idiot. And, why I believe they waited until Clinton was out of office. Anyway...go read the article.
Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented?
/ They Had A Plan
Long before 9/11, the White House debated taking the
fight to al-Qaeda. By the time they decided, it was too
late. The saga of a lost chance.
by Michael Elliott, Time, 4 Aug 2002
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020812/story.html
Print Form: http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0,8816,333835,00.html- Subject: US may use Microwave Weapons in Iraq
18 Aug 2002These are not the only uses of microwaves. An electromagnetic pulse is old technology, and is part of the effect of nuclear and some near-nuclear weapons. A strange laser ray was used in the invasion of the Phillipines to cut cars in half, for instance. Wars are always used to test weapons. Microwaves can be used to heat human bodies and to send messages directly into the brain from what I have read, for instance. Wars are laboratories. Peace is hell.
Super-Secret Microwave Weapons May Be Used in Iraq
by George Edmonson, Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 15 August 2002
http://commondreams.org/headlines02/0815-02.htm- Subject: US at War With Iraq Now
18 Aug 2002Tick, tock. Interesting if accurate.
Report: US Military Operations Already Underway in Iraq
US Iraq Campaign Has Its First Engagement
DEBKAfile Special Military Analysis, 10 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.18A.war.now.htm- Subject: Firefighters Vote to Boycott Bush Sept. 11 Tribute
18 Aug 2002The dogs bark when they don't get fed, some even bite.
Firefighters Vote to Boycott Bush Sept. 11 Tribute
by Steve Friess, Reuters, 14 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.16D.firefighters.911.htm- Subject: Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy
18 Aug 2002The class is clearly split on this one, all the more reason for us to drive the wedge. Pentagon has objections, State Department too, allies abroad and now inside the Republican Party. This is a part of how the war in Vietnam ended.
Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy
by Todd S. Purdum and Patrick E. Tyler, New York Times, 15 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.17A.gop.no.irq.htm- Subject: G.W. Bush, George Soros and Other "Malefactors of Great Wealth"
18 Aug 2002Chummy bunch!
Bush's Tangled Past Is Relevant Today
by Joe Conason, New York Observer, 29 July 2002
http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=6128- Subject: anthrax articles
18 Aug 2002Any feedback on these two pieces? I am wary of blaming a lone-nut, who if involved was probably following orders, but otherwise they seem good.
Connecting the Dots and Asking Questions about the Anthrax Letters
by Richard J. Ochs, 16 August 2002
anthraxLQs.htmlLearning the Wrong Lessons from the Anthrax Attacks
by Richard J. Ochs, 16 August 2002
biowepsWL.html- Subject: helpful site: truthout.org
18 Aug 2002A rash of good articles in here.
t r u t h o u t | 08.17
Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy
by Todd S. Purdum and Patrick E. Tyler, New York Times, 15 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.17A.gop.no.irq.htmWhite House Methodically Preparing for Iraq Campaign
by Warren P. Strobel, Knight Ridder, 16 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.17B.wh.prep.irq.htmIraq Wants Further Talks on Weapons Inspections
by Reuters, 16 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.17C.irq.un.insp.htmWhite House Caught Off Guard by Fox Decision to Snub Bush Ranch Invitation
by Scott Lindlaw, Associated Press, 15 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.17D.fox.snb.bush.htmMind the Gap
by Paul Krugman, New York Times, 16 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.17E.krug.gap.htmIn Battle Over 9-11 Detentions, Feds May Be Hiding More Than Identities
The Name Game, by Chisun Lee, VillageVoice.com, 14-20 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.17F.lee.911.hide.htmt r u t h o u t | 08.16
Nader Aparently Now Backs Wellstone
by Rob Hotakainen and Shira Kantor, The Star Tribune, 10 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.16A.nader.wellstone.htmInterview: Donahue With Jean-Charles Brisard, Co-Author of "The Forbidden Truth"
by Donahue, MSNBC, 13 August2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.16B.donahue.brisard.htmBush Kills $5.1B in Security Funds
by Associated Press, 14 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.16C.bush.5.1B.sec.htmFirefighters Vote to Boycott Bush Sept. 11 Tribute
by Steve Friess, Reuters, August 14 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.16D.firefighters.911.htmAmerican Legion Says Bush Let Veterans Down
by Associated Press, 14 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.16E.am.leg.bush.htmPadilla Probably Not Tied to Al-Qaida, U.S. Officials Admit
No evidence of preparations for `dirty bomb' attack found
by Associated Press, 13 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.16F.no.dirty.htmNRDC: Bush Seeks Rollback of Ocean Protection
Rob Perks, 14 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.16G.bush.ocean.htmt r u t h o u t | 08.15
All The King's Horses
by William Rivers Pitt, t r u t h o u t, 14 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.15A.wrp.horses.htmCamps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision,
Attorney general shows himself as a menace to liberty
by Jonathan Turley, Los Angeles Times, 14 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.15B.ashcr.camps.htmThe Anthrax Files
by Nicholas D. Kristof, New York Times, 13 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.15C.kristof.anthrax.htmTroops as Strikebreakers?
Bush Administration Considers 'Options' in West Coast Dock Talks
AFL-CIO, 14 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.15D.bush.strike.htmA Democracy On Corporate Autopilot
by Arianna Huffington, 6 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.15E.aria.autopilot.htmLA Police Beating Trial Moved to White Community
Associated Press, 13 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.15F.la.trial.htm
t r u t h o u t | 08.14
Kissinger : Deposing Saddam Could Backfire
The Times of India, 12 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.14A.kissinger.iraq.htmClueless in Crawford
by Paul Krugman, New York Times, 13 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.14B.krug.clueless.htmRumsfeld Weighs New Covert Acts by Military Units
by Thom Shanker and James Risen, New York Times, 12 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.14C.rums.nu.covert.htmPoll Suggests Public Divided
on Whether Bush Has Clear Policy on Iraq, Worry About Cost
Associated Press, 12 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.14D.poll.iraq.htm">Justice Goes Into Hiding
by Bob Herbert, New York Times, 12 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.14E.herbert.justice.htmBush May Withhold Anti-Terror Money
by Scott Lindlaw, Associated Press, August 12 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.14F.bush.withhold.htmReich Proposes Health Care Reforms
by John Mcelhenny, Associated Press, 12 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.14G.reich.care.htmt r u t h o u t | 08.13
It's Not the Economy, Stupid
by Marc Ash, t r u t h o u t, 12 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.13A.ma.its.not.htm`Dirty Bomb' Case ``Blown Out of All Proportion''
by Reuters, 11 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.13B.dirty.blown.htmRepublicans Say Bush Can Justify Attack on Iraq
by Reuters, 11 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.13C.gop.bush.iraq.htmReport: Saddam Offers to 'Admit Weapons Inspectors'
by Reuters, 11 August, 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.13D.sadd.insp.htmDespair in Once-Proud Argentina,
After Economic Collapse, Deep Poverty Makes Dignity a Casualty
by Anthony Faiola, Washington Post, 6 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.13E.Argen.dispair.htmAs Economy Sours, Bush Takes It Out on Lawyers
by Edwin Chen, Los Angeles Times, 11 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.13F.bush.lawyers.htmt r u t h o u t | 08.12
Bush the Idiot or Bush the Fiend
William Rivers Pitt, t r u t h o u t, 11 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.12A.wrp.idiot.htm'No' to a Bay of Pigs in the Gulf
Samuel R. Berger, International Herald Tribune, 10 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.12B.no.bay.pigs.htmNext Stop, Nevada!
Geoffrey Gray, VillageVoice.com, 9 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.12C.next.nevada.htmDynCorp Still Taking the Moral Low Ground
by Kelly Patricia O'Meara, Insight Magazine, 12 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.12D.dyncorp.low.htmIllegal Immigrant Death Rate Rises Sharply in Barren Areas
by Evelyn Nieves, New York Times, 6 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.12E.desert.death.htmt r u t h o u t | 08.11
Bush Rolls Back Rules on Privacy of Medical Data
by Robert Pear, New York Times, 9 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.11A.med.data.htmU.S. Seeks to Limit Conservation Law
by Katharine Q. Seelye, New York Times, 10 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.11B.env.law.htmU.S. to Modify Operation TIPS Plan
Associated Press, 10 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.11C.nu.tips.htmYes, We Need a 'Regime Change' in This Rogue State...
Adrian Hamilton, Independent UK, 9 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.11D.regime.change.htmWhite House Clean Air Act Rollback Bill Introduced in Congress;
Election-Year Smokescreen Masks Deep Cuts in Clean Air Safeguards
Jon Coifman, NRDC, 29 July 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.11E.no.clean.air.htmt r u t h o u t | 08.10
Does Ashcroft 'Obey the Rule of Law'?
Justice Department Goes After Aborion Rights
by Ginger Adams Otis, VillageVoice.com, 7 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.10A.ashc.oby.law.htmPoll: Two-Thirds Want Congressional Role in Iraq Decision, Time to Convince Allies
Associated Press, 9 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.10B.poll.iraq.htmWorldCom Finds $3.3 Billion More in Irregularities
by Barnaby J. Feder and Seth Schiesel, New York Times, 9 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.10C.Wcom3.3.more.htmProductivity Grows at 1.1 Percent Rate in Second Quarter, Slowest Pace in a Year
by Jeannine Aversa, Associated Press, 9 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.10D.grow.slow.htmThe Lost Continent
Paul Krugman, New York Times, 9 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.10E.krug.lost.htmEnvironmental Groups Sue to Stop Global Deployment
Of Navy Low Frequency Sonar System
by Elliott Negin, Craig Noble, NRDC, 7 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.10F.nrdc.sonar.htm
t r u t h o u t - Newsletter Sign-up (Free) :
https://www.truthout.org/membership/membership.htm- Subject: VitW warns be careful of Republicans "opposed" to invasion
18 Aug 2002Some telling points.
Voices in the Wilderness warns:
be careful of Republicans "opposed" to invasion of Iraq
by David Smith Ferri and Danny Muller, Voices in the Wilderness, 16 August 2002
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/VitW-Iraq.html- Subject: Rumsfeld pushes the envelope with forces plan
18 Aug 2002Stealth kill teams to be activated. Does the list of unwitting "host governments" include the US perhaps? This is from an interesting intelligence source that now has a daily posting. Peter Dale Scott subsribes to the full service.
Rumsfeld pushes the envelope with forces plan
Proposal akin to Israeli policy after '72 Munich Olympic massacre
WorldNetDaily.com, 13 August 2002
http://www.wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28600- Subject: NASA plans to read terrorist's minds at airports
18 Aug 2002Watch what you're thinking!!
NASA plans to read terrorist's minds at airports
by Frank J. Murray, The Washington Times, 17 August 2002
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020817-704732.htm- Subject: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
18 Aug 2002Think they don't have them already? Active since the 50s are dentention camps for times of war or national emergency that do not require habeus corpus rulings for citizens interred. Remember also that the "largest and most dangerous terrorist group" in the US, according to FBI experts, is Earth First!. Pretty scary! But in any case the rationale extends to both citizens and non-citizens alike.
Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
Attorney general shows himself as a menace to liberty.
by Jonathan Turley, Los Angeles Times, 14 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.15B.ashcr.camps.htm- Subject: FAA 911 Press Conference, Aug 12
18 Aug 2002Curious list of questions tacked on to the end of this.
MEDIA ADVISORY: Washington Briefings on 9/11 Events
FAA and ATC brief news media on 12 August 2002 about the September 11, 2001 shutdown of the national airspace.
FAA081202.html- Subject: Recognition of Patriot Act Urged
23 Aug 2002A little matter of the Constitution, maybe?
Recognition of Patriot Act Urged
U.S. Appeal Says Surveillance Court Misinterpreted New Law
by Susan Schmidt, Washington Post, 24 August 2002
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A55070-2002Aug23?language=printer- Subject: Secret Court Rebuffs Ashcroft
23 Aug 2002FISA itself, a totally secret court that allows secret evidence against defendants and has been used politically apparently, has a conservative but honest and non-fascist judge who has seen through their game and is standing up to Ashcroft and defying the Patriot Act. The Justice Department is out of control, and the FBI up to its old antics again. It will be interesting to watch this one play out.
Secret Court Rebuffs Ashcroft
Justice Dept. Chided On Misinformation
by Dan Eggen and Susan Schmidt, Washington Post, 23 August 2002
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A51220-2002Aug22?language=printer- Subject: machinations behind the scenes
24 Aug 2002Another source, though mostly rhetorical, for the machinations behind the scenes.
From the Online Journal Editor's Desk:
- Ashcroft's concentration camps for citizens; Nation Books launders "Forbidden Truth"
- Nation Books "Fixes" US Release of "Forbidden Truth"
- The Senior Snoopers
- Bush's Death Wish (For Us, That Is)
- Sharon to Campaign for Jeb Bush
- Democrats Eating One of Their Own: The Smearing of Cynthia McKinney
- Shock News
by Bev Conover, Online Journal, 16 August 2002
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Editor_sDesk/editor_sdesk.html- Subject: Abu Nidal - Dead Again
24 Aug 2002This Abu Nidal is the guy I started calling "Abu Giman" (a boogey man) when Oliver North claimed he had built his security fence at home to protect himself from Nidal, the most dangerous terrorist in the world we were told. Oliver North's covert operations company TCI was actually selling weapons to Nidal by way of a subsidiary. Nidal clearly worked for many intelligence agencies and always worked to undermine peace agreements in the Middle East. Whose interest was that in, do you suppose? Our current boogey man, Dr NOsama bin Laden in his "cave" with his gang of thugs is also a hired gun who has worked for Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, US CIA, and others around the world. We heard the tune loud and clear on 9/11, but we still don't know who paid the piper. Some sources say Nidal's death was "suspicious" and his own party says he committed suicide. If there was an arrangement for new leadership, then that would follow. Is this really who we should be most afraid of?
Robert Fisk: Gun for hire who has already died at least twice
by Robert Fisk, The Independent, 20 August 2002
gun4hire.html- Subject: Ashcroft Demands Records of 17 Senators Probing Sept 11th. Attacks
25 Aug 2002If they find out who it is, we should give them a medal.
Ashcroft Demands Records of 17 Senators Probing Sept 11th. Attacks
by Dana Priest, Washington Post, 24 August 2002
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.25B.doj.17.sens.htm- Subject: Unanswered questions: The mystery of Flight 93
25 Aug 2002An interesting article with lots of speculations but some important facts, including a report that intercept jets were scrambled at Andrews AFB to protect DC against a plane in Pennsylvania at 9:52. Two items on C-SPAN this week had more details, including two journalists at the command centers of American and United who reveal some of the confusion and response and more on the radar tracking of the planes. One journalist called me this week and said that NORAD times the Pentagon hit at 9:38, a good five to seven minutes before my timing from hearing the boom and looking at the clock around 9:45. However the other journalists put the timing closer to 9:45 as well in their version.
The American Airline Pilot's Association met this week also and broadcast over C-SPAN a talk by some aviation expert on the military response that day. His statements self-contradict about Flight 77 being lost to radar and when it was regained, but he also speaks about planes being scrambled very early after 8:25 and the first knowledge of the plots, and speculating that they hit sonic speed coming into New York City. However, the timing of takeoff and the speeds they can travel belie that notion unless they only sped up after the event. Timing and distance still point to subsonic speed responses, as does this article if read closely.
Why were planes scrambled from Andrews to stop Flight 93 but not to stop Flight 77, which had even more lead time from the point of hijacking to the crash?
Unanswered questions: The mystery of Flight 93
by John Carlin, [UK] Independent, 13 August 2002
http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=323958- Subject: Flight 77 Timeline
28 Aug 2002OK here's the Flight 77 timeline, with a 9:41 crash time into the Pentagon. I still say it was later, but certainly not at the 9:37 NORAD claims (and shouldn't they know?). I put it at 9:43 earliest, 9:48 latest, but maybe my clock is off. I did hear it hit and looked at the time. In terms of response time they had plenty.
All the interceptors are flying slooooowwwwwwly. I am glad to see a source about something going up from Andrews, but they had more there than that.
The surface-to-air missiles are inside the Pentagon courtyard. I sat on the port of one in the 1950s and my father told me to get off it and what it was. There may be more outside too, but none were used in any case. Pentagon has its own radar.
On local Channel 8 there were announcements that the plane had turned and was headed to DC before the crash, as well as evacuation announcements for Capitol, White House and Pentagon. CNN carried interviews of evacuated people on the lawn of the White House who remembered looking up to see a plane turning overhead. They were told by Secret Service that it was one of the President's "Doomsday" planes (command and control centers), but if so, who was in it? More likely it was Flight 77.
The loop down from 7,000 feet was an amazing flying feat, going 270 degrees out of its way to hit the empty side, and flying in so low it took off lamp poles. A Pentagon spokesman in DC said it had to be a very experienced flyer to do that, comparing it to dog fight maneuvers.
Hitting the empty side of the Pentagon and timing the first tower crash at 8:43 minimized the potential levels of death. That was planned. The speculation about the pilots continuing to fly the plane after it turned is borne out by a source I have inside American Airlines who was told that the American pilots flew almost to the end of each route. One of the AA 77 pilots had his throat slashed at some point though.
The speculation that one of the hijackers joined them in the cockpit reminded me of a story I heard from a flight attendant on American who had seen Mohammed Atta on an earlier flight and recalled him bugging her several times to be let up into the cockpit because he was also a pilot. She said such requests are routinely refused, though, as was his. He made her mad by continuing to ask, although in a very friendly way.
The Military Command Center is also notified during hijackings right away, not just NORAD, so the Pentagon would have been among the first to know the whole situation and watch it unfold on their radar screens. AA77 was briefly lost to radar but back on by 9:05 according to a speaker at the recent American Airline Pilots Association gathering.
Every official story about the events makes no sense, and every credible source points to the fact that there was a military stand down that day that allowed the Pentagon hit if not the Tower crashes as well.
This excellent and sourced timeline makes it all clear. It is part of a larger timeline of events, so go back to the source page as well. Great research source.
Flight 77 Timeline
by Paul Thompson, Center for Cooperative Research, last updated: 20 August 2002
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/completetimeline/AAf77.htm- Subject: Intro: The Complete 9/11 Timeline
28 Aug 2002Here is the broader timeline of events.
The Complete 9/11 Timeline
by Paul Thompson, Center for Cooperative Research, last updated: 20 August 2002
www.cooperativeresearch.org- Subject: Center for Cooperative Research (CCR) - About This Site
28 Aug 2002A proposal for a research framework, interesting.
Home >> About This Site, Center for Cooperative Research
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/About%20us.htm- Subject: CCR - September 11
28 Aug 2002And here is some political analysis, including the start of a merger between left structuralist thought and so called conspiracy theory.
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http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/September%2011.htm- Subject: CCR - Unresolved issues that need to be investigated
28 Aug 2002More grist for the mill. Sources on Pakistani ISI head Mahmud Ahmad visiting US officials and wiring money to Mohammed Atta. Also meeting with Armitage, and Senators Graham, Biden and Representative Goss, who are the "investigators".[1, 2, 3] Also information on another ISI operative using opium profits to fund covert operations.
CIA's William Casey ran the Mujehaddin covert war against the Soviet union using the same funding methods. The opium production continues to date. Armitage was part of the Afghanistan operation, very close to it, and well known in Pakistan as well. Armitage was a Congtragate figure, close to North. Contragate was also an off-the-shelf drug-financed operation run by Casey.
The Contragaters are back in high official positions running this new game. Poindexter is now in charge of data mining computers and phone tapping; [1, 2, 3] Colin Powell moved the TOW missiles through Israel for sale to Iran at bargain prices; and Otto Reich and others were involved in the dirty Contra war (also drug financed). They are back in position now, with the same old agenda for control.
North was behind destroying detente with the "evil empire" USSR via KAL 007, he was the liason of the DOD to FEMA for martial law planning (a fact that had to go into "closed committee" during the investigation and came out being falsely denied), and North was behind the phony terrorism scenarios of the 80s, using Abu Nidal as the threat (recently "suicided") while North's company was selling Nidal arms.
Does it then make sense of the fact that Mohammed Atta was living in Sarasota, Florida with one of the Contragate pilots? Is this just Casey's unfinished legacy come to haunt us, using the same methods and even the same personnel in a new and improved scam? BCCI money floats around these same operations and Saudi billions. There is more work to be done to get at the bottom of all this.
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http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/suspicious_activity_that_needs_to_be_explained.htm- Subject: Articles On 9-11 And U.S. Imperial Strategy
28 Aug 2002I've sent this out as they appeared, but here is a summary with links in one place for the good work of Jared Israel and others on 9/11.
Articles On 9-11 And U.S. Imperial Strategy
Emperor's Clothes Articles on 9-11 * A Guide
Originally posted 8 February 2002, revised & updated 25 July 2002
http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/911page.htm- Subject: Connecting The Dots Bush..Bath..Bin Laden
29 Aug 2002I have suspected from the start that there was false sponsorship in the 9/11 covert operation scenario, as there always is. Now we're getting awfully close to home. Saudi financiers, bin Laden's family, BCCI, all the dirty money behind Contragate and the war against the USSR in Afghanistan, and all of it swirling, as it always did, around the Bushes, especially George W. The families are doing better investigative work than the intelligence agencies, and here's all the important source books in one article as well. Mae Brussell would be smiling and preparing for her next broadcast with this material.
Bin Laden's Brother-in-law Had Close Ties to Bush
by Tom Flocco, AmericanFreePress.net & Scoop.co.nz, 28 Aug 2002
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0208/S00148.htm- Subject: Afghan Opium Output Seen Eclipsing Golden Triangle
29 Aug 2002What's a good war for? The US put the "moderate" leaders of the Northern Alliance back in control, who just happened to be the largest opium dealers in the country. This money is behind covert operations worldwide and will doubtless figure into operations in Iraq, among other places. Afghan heroin profits funded the CIA-backed Mujehaddin as well as the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army. The CIA won't release its budget because it doesn't cover its operations.
Afghan Opium Output Seen Eclipsing Golden Triangle
by Sasithorn Simaporn, Reuters, 27 Aug 2002
http://www.rense.com/general28/excxl.htm- Subject: Senate Report on Pre-9/11 Failures Tells of Bungling at FBI
29 Aug 2002Senator Arlen Specter knows all about "veritable blueprints" since he created a false one for the JFK assassination. Once again FBI malfeasance and perhaps conscious manipulation is put down to "bungling". What is amazing is that FISA, a totally secret court with excessive powers has a judge sitting on it honest enough to challenge the calumny and fake evidence of the FBI.
Senate Report on Pre-9/11 Failures Tells of Bungling at F.B.I.
by Philip Shenon, New York Times, 28 Aug 2002
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/28/politics/28TERR.html?en=1ae0&ex=1031112000&pagewanted=print&position=top- Subject: Iraq: The Lying Game
29 Aug 2002"The first casualty of war is the truth" Aeschylus, Greek writer. A good compilation of the falsehoods being used to convince Americans to go to war on Iraq. We put him into power and armed him so I guess we have the right to take him out? Or how does that work, anyway?
Iraq: The Lying Game -- John Pilger
by John Pilger, Mirror.co.uk, 27 Aug 2002
http://www.mirror.co.uk/printable_version.cfm?objectid=12148547&siteid=50143
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